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Author Topic: Assisting PVP participants back to a safe area - Discussion (PVP Fair Play Rule 1)  (Read 439 times)

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Offline Syrass

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As at the time of posting this, the rule is:
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PVP Fair Play Rule 1 - Anyone within a PvP playfield (planet, moon or orbit) is fair game to come under attack at anytime (anytime includes if you are offline - so make sure you have offline protection), however once the battle is won it is expected that the victor will assist the loser to get back to an area where they have a chance to rebuild. Anyone found to be playing unfair will be warned and subsequently banned.
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I would like to clarify: Does this mean leaving someone in a pve system with a Portable constructor is enough (assuming 3 basic rock types are available)?

As a community I would like to confirm that the above is quite a douche move, even if it is decided to be "within the rules".

I understand that dropping the person back to a base is very courteous, but sometimes they are not traveling in the same direction as you.  I suspect I would at least give them a small functional vehicle to get them self home (but quite possibly not a warp vehicle).  Always happy to drop someone fairly close to base if I am traveling in that direction.

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I think that dropping them somewhere that is somewhere that they can self recover from is good enough, maybe even a trading station where there are portals would work as well.

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Ok so here is a scenario that i think should be addressed if not already been addressed, say im a casual player with nothing against pvp as its simply part of the game, however i make a plan in the 2-3hrs i have spare to hit the moon for some sath or pentax ect.. i land setup any defence i feel i need meanwhile another player has seen me and decided he will attack, say i actually win said battle by whatever means, and the attacker is now defeated and stranded am i ment to drop my entire plan considering i only have so much playtime to assist the wouldbe thief/pirate to home/safe place to continue his game? The decision to attack a person shouldn't be helped by any rules to make said decision an easy one, part of that process should be, can i win, if i dont will i be stranded.
Knowing you will will get a free ride to safety takes processe away and its just happys days.

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Ok so here is a scenario that i think should be addressed if not already been addressed, say im a casual player with nothing against pvp as its simply part of the game, however i make a plan in the 2-3hrs i have spare to hit the moon for some sath or pentax ect.. i land setup any defence i feel i need meanwhile another player has seen me and decided he will attack, say i actually win said battle by whatever means, and the attacker is now defeated and stranded am i ment to drop my entire plan considering i only have so much playtime to assist the wouldbe thief/pirate to home/safe place to continue his game? The decision to attack a person shouldn't be helped by any rules to make said decision an easy one, part of that process should be, can i win, if i dont will i be stranded.
Knowing you will will get a free ride to safety takes processe away and its just happys days.
Howdy,
If this were to happen, I think it is fair for you to say to the attacker (who attacked you, but lost the battle and is now stranded) that they are going to have to wait until you're done. I don't think you should have to suspend your operations because someone attacked you and lost. Once you are complete, if you have the ability to actually take them somewhere, then do so, to the nearest location where they can continue their game, or where someone else can assist further.

The idea is not so you have to go massively out of your way to fix up a situation, but you can at least get them to the point where you can go your way, they can continue their way without being completely stranded.

Andy.

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Is it also sensible that you have your home spawn point set so you can get back yourself? You've gone into a PvP fight and lost, the winner takes all their loot so you have nothing to transport back except your body, so just re-spawn at home. If you want to come back later and pick over whatever was left of your vessel that is up to you.

I think more onus needs to be on the individual on getting themselves out with either home spawn, emergency SV/CV in factory or their faction mates can come and collect before the victor has to upset their plans and salvage to take someone back.

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Maby setting a spawn point should be a rule? As it is so far ive only ever had enough pentax to get from point a to b so good luck to anyone that needs a lift from me in that situation, i would do my best to abide by the rules however i doubt id have pantax to get them home ect, if it was on a moon that would be fine, i would make them pick the stuff for there ride or they dont get one.

 

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